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Post by Marconius Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:12 pm

So lemme get this straight. This is supposed to be "The Land of the Free", is it not??? So why the hell are so many people upset about one guys feelings on same sex marriage??? So what if the man owns a business. Has he ever, ever discriminated against gays/lesbians???

Anyway, let's share the love by posting a link to twits sent by twits concerning today's events. Please feel free to notice all the death wishes. Talk about tolerance. One reason I could never stand a progressive. They talk too much shit and never.....ever.....back up what they supposedly believe in with actions. I guess that is why we need so much government in our lives. They can try to make us civil to each other. That way, we don't have to worry about it ourselves.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/choke-to-death-on-that-lgbt-hating-chicken-see-how-the-left-is-reacting-to-support-chick-fil-a-day/
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Post by Bryant Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:09 am

People making these threats are beyond 2σ of the norm (ie outliers), not a fair representation of those boycotting Chick-fil-A. While the hatred expressed by those wishing death or other bodily harm upon Chick-fil-A customers is clearly unacceptable, it is in no way fair to attach that to everyone who apposes the abhorrent causes that this company supports. That said, what more could one expect from The Blaze (the conservative Addicting Info).

As for why people are boycotting Chick-fil-A, it isn't simply because its bigoted owner supports the repression of a minority, but because the company donates some of its profit to anti-gay activist groups. By purchasing products from this company, I would be directly supporting these hate groups.
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Post by Marconius Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:29 pm

Bryant wrote:People making these threats are beyond 2σ of the norm (ie outliers), not a fair representation of those boycotting Chick-fil-A. While the hatred expressed by those wishing death or other bodily harm upon Chick-fil-A customers is clearly unacceptable, it is in no way fair to attach that to everyone who apposes the abhorrent causes that this company supports. That said, what more could one expect from The Blaze (the conservative Addicting Info).

As for why people are boycotting Chick-fil-A, it isn't simply because its bigoted owner supports the repression of a minority, but because the company donates some of its profit to anti-gay activist groups. By purchasing products from this company, I would be directly supporting these hate groups.

So the CEO of a certain franchised corporation expresses a view you do not like, and you feel that a concerted, public attempt to shut down the entire franchised corporation is warranted??? Do you feel that government intervention in commerce is warranted for this???

I see my taxes rising to pay for more unemployed.................thanks guys.

I hope none of you guys ever......ever......holds an opinion that contradicts what others believe.

BTW-those tweets were not from "outliers" and you know it. Almost every local radio, TV show, etc. has talked about this and have had callers and emails sent. The overwhelming majority of those opposed have wished death (usually by heart attack) on anyone who would choose to eat at one of franchise's locations. In fact The Blaze article was actually linked from another news site that is more mainstream.
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Post by Dennis324 Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:09 pm

Bryant wrote:As for why people are boycotting Chick-fil-A, it isn't simply because its bigoted owner supports the repression of a minority, but because the company donates some of its profit to anti-gay activist groups. By purchasing products from this company, I would be directly supporting these hate groups.
Right. I'm a fan of Chick-fil-A because they make a great sandwich...and I do support the owner's biblical values.

But I dont have a problem with people deciding to boycott the chain if they disagree with his views or the groups he donates money to. I personally refuse to buy from certain groups like Pepsi and McDonald's for similar reasons. People have a right to purchase from whomever they like and refuse to purchase from the ones they dislike. Otoh, i'm not going to stand outside their establishment with a cross and a sign blasting them for donating to gay causes either. I just wont buy from them (if I can help it).

Hey, I havent bought from Exxon since the Valdez oil spill. And I dont buy from BP either. I'm pretty consistent when it comes to buying from who I like and refusing to buy from who I dislike. But I must admit....I'm having a dilemma when it comes to Amazon.com. I buy so much from them and they give to causes I disagree with. However, they have sold me many bibles and religious books in the past so .....I may give them a pass.
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Post by Marconius Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:43 pm

Dennis324 wrote:

But I dont have a problem with people deciding to boycott the chain if they disagree with his views or the groups he donates money to. I personally refuse to buy from certain groups like Pepsi and McDonald's for similar reasons. People have a right to purchase from whomever they like and refuse to purchase from the ones they dislike. Otoh, i'm not going to stand outside their establishment with a cross and a sign blasting them for donating to gay causes either. I just wont buy from them (if I can help it).

Hey, I havent bought from Exxon since the Valdez oil spill. And I dont buy from BP either. I'm pretty consistent when it comes to buying from who I like and refusing to buy from who I dislike. But I must admit....I'm having a dilemma when it comes to Amazon.com. I buy so much from them and they give to causes I disagree with. However, they have sold me many bibles and religious books in the past so .....I may give them a pass.


Why??? It is something I guess I am just not wired to understand. I do not base my business decisions on the personal feelings of certain individuals employed by certain corporations, but rather the service I get from that corporation. It isn't like it matters anyway. It isn't like Dan Cathy owns the damn thing. He is the COO of the parent company to many other private, individually owned companies. He may get $.00001 from each transaction if lucky. Meanwhile, who I am really affecting is the hard working people of the business and the individual owner of that location.
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Post by Marconius Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:58 pm

Bryant wrote:
As for why people are boycotting Chick-fil-A, it isn't simply because its bigoted owner supports the repression of a minority, but because the company donates some of its profit to anti-gay activist groups. By purchasing products from this company, I would be directly supporting these hate groups.

Just checked on those donations. To call them a hate group is really grasping at straws (yeah I know, offering counsel to those who may feel "no longer gay" should be a hate crime damnit). They do nothing hateful. They are a resource for.....get his.....Christians. It is the same as if giving to support groups for.....get this......gay/lesbians. Quick, let's call PFLAG a hate group. See how stupid that sounds??? Just because an organization only supports one sector of the population, does not make that group a "hate group". You do not have the power, authority, or right to tell a private business who they can and cannot support.

According to gay employees, tons of people are telling them they should choke and die on the product for not supporting gay marriage. Funny huh??? Sure is a lot of fringe out there.
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Post by Marconius Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:00 am

Funny thing is......I have never, in my life, eaten at a Chick-Fil-A. Not gonna go outta my way to do so either. Their product doesn't look that great to me. I'll keep my Raisin' Cane's.
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Post by Marconius Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:07 am

Quick question:

If someone is pro-traditional marriage he/she is a hate monger.

What then is someone who is pro-gay marriage???

I mean if being "pro" something means you are "anti" something else, then the above statement is true......unless......
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Post by Bryant Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:05 pm

Marconius wrote:
Bryant wrote:
As for why people are boycotting Chick-fil-A, it isn't simply because its bigoted owner supports the repression of a minority, but because the company donates some of its profit to anti-gay activist groups. By purchasing products from this company, I would be directly supporting these hate groups.

Just checked on those donations. To call them a hate group is really grasping at straws (yeah I know, offering counsel to those who may feel "no longer gay" should be a hate crime damnit). They do nothing hateful. They are a resource for.....get his.....Christians. It is the same as if giving to support groups for.....get this......gay/lesbians. Quick, let's call PFLAG a hate group. See how stupid that sounds??? Just because an organization only supports one sector of the population, does not make that group a "hate group". You do not have the power, authority, or right to tell a private business who they can and cannot support.

According to gay employees, tons of people are telling them they should choke and die on the product for not supporting gay marriage. Funny huh??? Sure is a lot of fringe out there.

How is calling the Family Research Council a hate group grasping at straws? This group has held official positions stating that homosexuality (well, their words were 'homosexual behavior') should be criminal, that homosexuals are predisposed to pedophilia and as such are a danger to society, and of course spend large amounts of money lobbying congress to try to keep same-sex marriage illegal. FRC is also listed as a hate group by the SPLC.

I, as a private citizen, do have the power, the authority, and the right to tell a business who it can and can not support. In the capitalist system, the consumer has the power to tell businesses what to do by deciding to buy or not to buy a product. I also have a 1st Amendment right to try to convince others to agree with me through the exercise of my freedom of speech. The very action of a boycott falls within the very principles of libertarian ideology, so I'm not sure why you are opposed to it.

With that said, I do not and will not defend the use of threats of violence against those who work, own, or eat at one of these establishments. Nor shall I defend any government action trying to punish this franchise for the views of its owners or any lawful donation of its profits (which would constitute a violation of Chick-fil-a's owners 1st Amendment rights).

Addendum: I also quit shopping a Campmor.com several years ago. Why? Because I discovered that they donate a percent of there proceeds to the Sierra Club. While the company sold decent products at great prices, I oppose many of the views and actions of the Sierra Club and as such did not want my money going to them. If Campmor quit donating to the Sierra Club and other similar groups, I'd start giving them business again.


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Post by Bryant Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:09 pm

Marconius wrote:Quick question:

If someone is pro-traditional marriage he/she is a hate monger.

What then is someone who is pro-gay marriage???

I mean if being "pro" something means you are "anti" something else, then the above statement is true......unless......

Straw-man, I've not heard being criticized for for supporting heterosexual marriages. The opposition has been to those who have tried and continue to strive to keep same sex couples in an unequal position. If someone was lobbying to make heterosexual marriage illegal, I'd oppose them too!
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Post by Bryant Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:27 pm

Marconius wrote:
Bryant wrote:People making these threats are beyond 2σ of the norm (ie outliers), not a fair representation of those boycotting Chick-fil-A. While the hatred expressed by those wishing death or other bodily harm upon Chick-fil-A customers is clearly unacceptable, it is in no way fair to attach that to everyone who apposes the abhorrent causes that this company supports. That said, what more could one expect from The Blaze (the conservative Addicting Info).

As for why people are boycotting Chick-fil-A, it isn't simply because its bigoted owner supports the repression of a minority, but because the company donates some of its profit to anti-gay activist groups. By purchasing products from this company, I would be directly supporting these hate groups.

So the CEO of a certain franchised corporation expresses a view you do not like, and you feel that a concerted, public attempt to shut down the entire franchised corporation is warranted??? Do you feel that government intervention in commerce is warranted for this???

As I had previously stated, my opposition is where the money goes (like FRC) more than what the owner said (although to some that may well be worth a boycott). I think the boycott is warranted, however as I suspect you are well aware the purpose of a boycott is to change a businesses behavior, not to run it out of business. If they relented and announced they would no longer fund anti-gay groups this would all go away. The government has no place in this dispute as both parties are exercising their first amendment rights. Should anyone commit a criminal act (say vandalism or making 'terrorist' threats), then the investigation of these crimes would be acceptable, but only limited to that.

I see my taxes rising to pay for more unemployed.................thanks guys.

I'm not sure how it works in LA, but in California unemployment insurance is funded by a tax on the employer, not on the public. So unless you are the owner of the company, you won't be paying a dime. Chick-fil-a also isn't exactly the only employer in its sector, nor is it a career for most of its employees.

I hope none of you guys ever......ever......holds an opinion that contradicts what others believe.


Come on, that completely misses the point and you know it. I strongly disagree with many of the teachings of the judo-christian tradition, however I will still give many christian oriented companies business assuming they are not doing anything to force others to live within their belief system (ie fighting against gay rights). I may disagree with the owners, but so long as their product and price are good and their money doesn't go to things I deeply, ethically oppose then I'll give them my business. You might as well be criticizing fundamentalist Christians for not buying Richard Dawkins' books.

BTW-those tweets were not from "outliers" and you know it. Almost every local radio, TV show, etc. has talked about this and have had callers and emails sent. The overwhelming majority of those opposed have wished death (usually by heart attack) on anyone who would choose to eat at one of franchise's locations. In fact The Blaze article was actually linked from another news site that is more mainstream.


The Chick-fil-a boycott is a large movement. While there may be several people making threats, they are still a small minority. The actions of those you cite is despicable and has no place in this discourse.
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Post by Marconius Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:49 pm

Bryant wrote:
How is calling the Family Research Council a hate group grasping at straws? This group has held official positions stating that homosexuality (well, their words were 'homosexual behavior') should be criminal, that homosexuals are predisposed to pedophilia and as such are a danger to society, and of course spend large amounts of money lobbying congress to try to keep same-sex marriage illegal. FRC is also listed as a hate group by the SPLC.
I was really hoping you would bring up the SPLC. What can I say about an organization who's time has come and gone??? Sure they did OK work back in the 70's, but they are now trying to justify existence. Why else would they catagorize someone, like me, as a member of a hate group??? What is my crime you might ask.......simply swearing to uphold the US Constitution. Meanwhile I notice they do not list Black Block(they feel it is warranted to kill both you and I for eating meat), nor the domestic terror groups ELF and ALF on SPLC's hate group list. SPLC.....what a joke they have become.

As for FRC is concerned.....well they also want to outlaw porn, divorce, and alcohol so I wouldn't call them a hate group. Just a misguided fundamentalist group. Hate group.......nah, let's leave that stigma to those who deserve it like the KKK, Arian Nation, Black Panther Party and what not. Of course we can keep going this route, but then we would have to be truthful. Louis Farrakhan and his NOI organization expresses the very same views on gays and gay marriage as FRC does......where is the NOI on SPLC's hate group list??? Where is the public outcry??? Better yet, let's point out that by being pro-life.....you are technically part of a hate group in the eyes of free-choicers and the SPLC!!! Watch who you make bedfellows 'cause they are gonna come for you next.


I, as a private citizen, do have the power, the authority, and the right to tell a business who it can and can not support. In the capitalist system, the consumer has the power to tell businesses what to do by deciding to buy or not to buy a product. I also have a 1st Amendment right to try to convince others to agree with me through the exercise of my freedom of speech. The very action of a boycott falls within the very principles of libertarian ideology, so I'm not sure why you are opposed to it.
Because, as I said to Dennis, boycotting the entire franchised corporation does nothing of real value to the COO of that franchised corporation. It hurts the local store owners/operators far more and until such time as I know what/how those local store owners feel....I just don't see any justification for the denial of goods and services, to myself, over something like this. As I've said before. This guy only affects gays/lesbians as long as they try to solve thing democratically. If they were to take their fight to the justice system, as they should have long ago, the fight would be over by now.
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Post by Marconius Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:00 pm

Bryant wrote:
I'm not sure how it works in LA, but in California unemployment insurance is funded by a tax on the employer, not on the public. So unless you are the owner of the company, you won't be paying a dime. Chick-fil-a also isn't exactly the only employer in its sector, nor is it a career for most of its employees.

It works the same way it does in CA. Just like in CA, these benefits are limited in nature and pretty much all get government assistance as well. Most now-a-days seem to never even look for work again.
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Come on, that completely misses the point and you know it. I strongly disagree with many of the teachings of the judo-christian tradition, however I will still give many christian oriented companies business assuming they are not doing anything to force others to live within their belief system (ie fighting against gay rights). I may disagree with the owners, but so long as their product and price are good and their money doesn't go to things I deeply, ethically oppose then I'll give them my business. You might as well be criticizing fundamentalist Christians for not buying Richard Dawkins' books.

See the example I gave pertaining to your views on abortion to really get the jist of what I was saying. Of course in today's PC climate, not agreeing with something is seen as being hateful in regards to the topic at hand. I would also like to point out that I have seen critical statements made right here just because many Christians do not believe in certain things certain posters believe in (not just books from Mr. Dawkins).

I would also like to point out that there is no such thing as "gay rights". There are only rights and all people enjoy them the same. Being gay does not afford you special rights that others do not have. Oh how I hate the rebranding of existing terms and ideals into catch phrases for political purpose. Terms like "civil rights", "rights of the children" and so on. There are only rights.
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Post by Marconius Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:18 pm

Bryant wrote:
Marconius wrote:Quick question:

If someone is pro-traditional marriage he/she is a hate monger.

What then is someone who is pro-gay marriage???

I mean if being "pro" something means you are "anti" something else, then the above statement is true......unless......

Straw-man, I've not heard being criticized for for supporting heterosexual marriages. The opposition has been to those who have tried and continue to strive to keep same sex couples in an unequal position. If someone was lobbying to make heterosexual marriage illegal, I'd oppose them too!

Getting at something in a 'round-about manner. Mostly a hint to draw comparisons to other topics of this nature......like pro-life.
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Post by Dennis324 Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:49 pm

Marconius wrote:
Dennis324 wrote:

But I dont have a problem with people deciding to boycott the chain if they disagree with his views or the groups he donates money to. I personally refuse to buy from certain groups like Pepsi and McDonald's for similar reasons. People have a right to purchase from whomever they like and refuse to purchase from the ones they dislike. Otoh, i'm not going to stand outside their establishment with a cross and a sign blasting them for donating to gay causes either. I just wont buy from them (if I can help it).

Hey, I havent bought from Exxon since the Valdez oil spill. And I dont buy from BP either. I'm pretty consistent when it comes to buying from who I like and refusing to buy from who I dislike. But I must admit....I'm having a dilemma when it comes to Amazon.com. I buy so much from them and they give to causes I disagree with. However, they have sold me many bibles and religious books in the past so .....I may give them a pass.


Why??? It is something I guess I am just not wired to understand. I do not base my business decisions on the personal feelings of certain individuals employed by certain corporations, but rather the service I get from that corporation. It isn't like it matters anyway. It isn't like Dan Cathy owns the damn thing. He is the COO of the parent company to many other private, individually owned companies. He may get $.00001 from each transaction if lucky. Meanwhile, who I am really affecting is the hard working people of the business and the individual owner of that location.
Well, in my case I just dont want a penny of my money going toward groups I dont support. Its like voicing my opinion with my wallet. Its why I try to buy America goods whenever possible. Its not much, but if everyone did that, companies would take notice and maybe change their practice. If you never take a stand about anything, these companies will just go on trying to push agendas you may not agree with.
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Post by Dennis324 Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:52 pm

Marconius wrote:Quick question:

If someone is pro-traditional marriage he/she is a hate monger.

What then is someone who is pro-gay marriage???

I mean if being "pro" something means you are "anti" something else, then the above statement is true......unless......
EXcellent point. Smile Being pro gay marriage does not (IMO) mean you are a hate monger or evil. I just think it means the person is probably not someone who adheres to the Bible.


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Post by Dennis324 Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:55 pm

Bryant wrote:
I, as a private citizen, do have the power, the authority, and the right to tell a business who it can and can not support. In the capitalist system, the consumer has the power to tell businesses what to do by deciding to buy or not to buy a product. I also have a 1st Amendment right to try to convince others to agree with me through the exercise of my freedom of speech.
Agreed 100%! Smile We can influence companies with the power of the almighty dollar.
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Post by Marconius Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:54 pm

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Well, in my case I just dont want a penny of my money going toward groups I dont support. Its like voicing my opinion with my wallet. Its why I try to buy America goods whenever possible. Its not much, but if everyone did that, companies would take notice and maybe change their practice. If you never take a stand about anything, these companies will just go on trying to push agendas you may not agree with.

That's fine Dennis, but do you ever stop to think that you are actually hurting countless innocent people in your attempt to hurt just one man???
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Post by Dennis324 Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:12 pm

Great gay kiss-off lays a gigantic egg

This was billed as the greatest protest since Occupy Wall Street. Thousands of scantily clad gay men and lesbians said they’d lock lips in a coast-to-coast red-hot make-out session.

They were to blast anti-gay-marriage comments made by Chick-fil-A CEO Dan Cathy. But gays preferred staying home to watch “The Real Housewives of New Jersey.”

Tumbleweeds could have rolled through the Paramus Park Mall in New Jersey yesterday as a symbol for the lack of stamina in the national kissing campaign.

From Georgia to California, protests drew yawns, not saliva.

Even in Atlanta, the home of Chick-fil-A, only two dozen kissers showed up. And there was a similar lack of necking in Chicago, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and San Francisco.

At NYU, 20 people weren’t allowed in the dorm that hosts the city’s only Chick-fil-A. Just three pairs of guys kissed on the street.

In Jersey, I only found eight kissers — and two weren’t even bi!

Giggling like overaged cheerleaders, Jessi Friechter, 42, and Claudia Campagna, 51, stared into each other’s eyes. And in full view of the Chik-fil-A neon sign, the coworkers pecked each other on the cheek — handing me an iPhone to record the event.

“My husband would love this,” teased Friechter.

Nearby, an older gent who refused to give his name was freaking out.

“That’s disgusting! That’s not why I came here,” he said.

“Why don’t they go to Sbarro and do that? Why don’t they go to Subway?”

So much for the kiss-fest. It couldn’t even draw New York’s Lesbian-in-Chief Christine Quinn, who wants to boot Chick-fil-A from the city.

This aged mall of dwindling splendor, where brow threading competes with bedazzlers, was supposed to be swarmed by thousands of folks protesting Cathy’s comments: “We are very much supportive of the family — the Biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives.”

But there wasn’t enough gay outrage to draw more than one person who was actually gay.

She was Laura Fram, 34, a gay Republican vegetarian, who said Chick-fil-A was “hateful and hurtful.”

But her main problem was that she had no one to kiss.

“If you find someone for me to kiss, I’d be willing — but only a woman,” Fram said before running to pick up her daughter.

One disappointed by the smooch fiasco was Curtis Sliwa. The radio talker and Guardian Angel has been urging people to come out and eat.

“I was here to realize every male fantasy — watching lesbians kiss,” he said. “Now I get to buy a spicy chicken sandwich and waffle fries.

“I’m disappointed.”

You’re not the only one.

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Post by Bryant Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:10 pm

Dennis324 wrote:Great gay kiss-off lays a gigantic egg

This was billed as the greatest protest since Occupy Wall Street. Thousands of scantily clad gay men and lesbians said they’d lock lips in a coast-to-coast red-hot make-out session.

They were to blast anti-gay-marriage comments made by Chick-fil-A CEO Dan Cathy. But gays preferred staying home to watch “The Real Housewives of New Jersey.”

Tumbleweeds could have rolled through the Paramus Park Mall in New Jersey yesterday as a symbol for the lack of stamina in the national kissing campaign.

From Georgia to California, protests drew yawns, not saliva.

Even in Atlanta, the home of Chick-fil-A, only two dozen kissers showed up. And there was a similar lack of necking in Chicago, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and San Francisco.

At NYU, 20 people weren’t allowed in the dorm that hosts the city’s only Chick-fil-A. Just three pairs of guys kissed on the street.

In Jersey, I only found eight kissers — and two weren’t even bi!

Giggling like overaged cheerleaders, Jessi Friechter, 42, and Claudia Campagna, 51, stared into each other’s eyes. And in full view of the Chik-fil-A neon sign, the coworkers pecked each other on the cheek — handing me an iPhone to record the event.

“My husband would love this,” teased Friechter.

Nearby, an older gent who refused to give his name was freaking out.

“That’s disgusting! That’s not why I came here,” he said.

“Why don’t they go to Sbarro and do that? Why don’t they go to Subway?”

So much for the kiss-fest. It couldn’t even draw New York’s Lesbian-in-Chief Christine Quinn, who wants to boot Chick-fil-A from the city.

This aged mall of dwindling splendor, where brow threading competes with bedazzlers, was supposed to be swarmed by thousands of folks protesting Cathy’s comments: “We are very much supportive of the family — the Biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives.”

But there wasn’t enough gay outrage to draw more than one person who was actually gay.

She was Laura Fram, 34, a gay Republican vegetarian, who said Chick-fil-A was “hateful and hurtful.”

But her main problem was that she had no one to kiss.

“If you find someone for me to kiss, I’d be willing — but only a woman,” Fram said before running to pick up her daughter.

One disappointed by the smooch fiasco was Curtis Sliwa. The radio talker and Guardian Angel has been urging people to come out and eat.

“I was here to realize every male fantasy — watching lesbians kiss,” he said. “Now I get to buy a spicy chicken sandwich and waffle fries.

“I’m disappointed.”

You’re not the only one.

lol!

Thats odd, there was a fairly large turnout in Fresno (keep in mind, a 'liberal' protest of over 20 people is huge in Fresno).

From the local FOX station:

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Post by Dennis324 Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:39 pm

Marconius wrote:
Dennis324 wrote:
Well, in my case I just dont want a penny of my money going toward groups I dont support. Its like voicing my opinion with my wallet. Its why I try to buy America goods whenever possible. Its not much, but if everyone did that, companies would take notice and maybe change their practice. If you never take a stand about anything, these companies will just go on trying to push agendas you may not agree with.

That's fine Dennis, but do you ever stop to think that you are actually hurting countless innocent people in your attempt to hurt just one man???
Because of one man? What one man would that be? confused

I just choose to support companies that I like.
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Post by Miles1 Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:47 am

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I hope none of you guys ever......ever......holds an opinion that contradicts what others believe.

Hey, I do that every time I open my mouth in here.... :-P

Damn, I go away on holidays for a week and y'all start going mad here, more posts in the last week than in the last month....
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Post by Miles1 Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:50 am

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That's fine Dennis, but do you ever stop to think that you are actually hurting countless innocent people in your attempt to hurt just one man???

Sounds like the Republican Party strategy against Obama there really.....

(what, I haven't done a good shit-stir in here in ages, I'm due one :-P)
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Post by Marconius Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:46 pm

Miles1 wrote:
Marconius wrote:
That's fine Dennis, but do you ever stop to think that you are actually hurting countless innocent people in your attempt to hurt just one man???

Sounds like the Republican Party strategy against Obama there really.....

(what, I haven't done a good shit-stir in here in ages, I'm due one :-P)

Considering all the slime and outright lies coming from President Obama's campaign the past few weeks, it seems that the statement is truer the other way around.

Seriously thinking about a secluded cabin somewhere in Alaska. Maybe then I won't have to hear the crap that has been going on lately and I wouldn't get so steamed about the hypocrisy.
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Post by Marconius Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:47 pm

Dennis324 wrote:
Marconius wrote:
Dennis324 wrote:
Well, in my case I just dont want a penny of my money going toward groups I dont support. Its like voicing my opinion with my wallet. Its why I try to buy America goods whenever possible. Its not much, but if everyone did that, companies would take notice and maybe change their practice. If you never take a stand about anything, these companies will just go on trying to push agendas you may not agree with.

That's fine Dennis, but do you ever stop to think that you are actually hurting countless innocent people in your attempt to hurt just one man???
Because of one man? What one man would that be? confused

I just choose to support companies that I like.

Missed the point there Dennis.

Forget about it man. The point I was trying to make doesn't really matter that much to me anyway.
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