Whatever's Clever
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

The Saudi connection.

4 posters

Go down

The Saudi connection. Empty The Saudi connection.

Post by Dennis324 Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:53 pm

Ok, some interesting things are coming to light about the Saudi national I spoke of earlier.

Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi, originally identified as a “person of interest” in the Boston Marathon bombing was set to be deported under section 212, 3B — “Security and related grounds” — “Terrorist activities” after the bombing on April 15. FBI agents raided his apartment for 9 hours and carried a bunch of stuff away. Also his roomates were interrogated for 5 hours.

1. A little info on this file. A 2123B file is used whenever someone is identified as an active terrorist and poses immediate terrorist threat. This file was issued to the Saudi National before the bombings in Boston.

2. It is no small matter to have this file issued on you. When a file is created in the system, the authors are notified via email when it is accessed and given the email address of the person accessing, so there is a record within the government data system of who was there. It was amended] to remove the deportation reference, then someone later went in and tried to destroy both the original event file and an amended versions. Unfortunately for them, copies had already been made and are out there. To get your name in this file, a panel of judges have to be consulted. This isnt the work of single person who just decides to stick your name there. It is a very big deal. You DONT want to have a 2123B file opened on you. The original event file was reviewed and approved by two high level agents – Chief Watch Commander Maimbourg and Watch Commander Mayfield

During a recent congressional hearing, Janet Napolitano refused to answer a Republican congressman’s questions about the possible deportation of the Saudi Arabian national questioned as a witness in the Boston Marathon bombings. She said his questions were not worthy of an answer.

When pressed, she said she was unaware of anyone who is being deported for national security concerns at all related to Boston. Then she said the man was not technically a person of interest or a suspect. That was on the 18th.

Then an ICE official later said April 18 that a different Saudi national is in custody, but that he is “in no way” connected to the bombings.

Now it turns out that:

(a) he had an earlier 2123B file already on him.

(b)Alharbi’s 2123B file was altered on the evening of April 17 to disassociate him from the initial charges.

His student visa specifically allows him to go to school in Findlay, Ohio, though he appears to have an apartment in Boston, Mass. Turns out he never went to school in Findlay at all. Never showed up.

On the 23rd he was put on a terror watchlist and Napolitano (finally) confirmed this. But here's the thing:

The 2123B event file created for Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi indicated he was “armed and dangerous”.
Yet he was admitted into the country under a “special advisory option,” which is usually reserved for visiting politicians, VIPs, or journalists. The event file cover page indicates he was granted his status without full vetting.

One of the first excuses given by law enforcement when confronted about Alharbi’s pending deportation was an expired visa. But according to the event file, his visa is good until 11-NOV-2016.

The event file indicates he entered the U.S. on 08/28/12 in Boston, MA but says he is a student at the University of Findlay, in Findlay, Ohio. He has an apartment in Boston, and doesn’t seem to have been a full-time student in Ohio.

Was Alharbi considered “armed and dangerous” before the Boston bombing, or at it?
Was it related to something they found at his apartment?
Was his prior “event” from the days prior, at the bombing, or was it from an earlier period in his life? Where is it now???
Most of all how was he admitted into the country under a “special advisory option?” How many students receive that privilege, particularly without proper security clearance?

Look, this kid went to the hospital after these bombings for injuries. So he was in the area when it happened. This guy that had a 2123B file on him that said he was armed and dangerous, who never appeared to the college in Ohio that he said he was coming to the US for, who instead had an apartment in Mass, and who apparently had a prior 2123B even file...was allowed to come into our country anyway. Rules were bent to the breaking point to let him in. They had to be!

I think this kid has some juice. He most likely belongs to a powerful family in Saudi. But why would we let this kid in, just for a wealthy connected family...especially if he is so dangerous? And why is the DHS trying to be evasive and/or covering all this stuff up? Why was his file altered?

Were the 2 bombers really lone wolves (as has been suggested by much of the media)? These 2 kids were living on welfare!!! Yet the older brother found enough money to fly to Russia and disappear there for 6 months. That aint cheap. I dont know many welfare people who can do this. The materials he used to make his bombs were cheap either. The pressure cookers were not from Wal-mart. They came from MACYs. Not to mention the cost of the explosives.

And remember I posted a few days ago that the Sec of State John Kerry met with the Saudi foriegn minister, but the media was restricted from attending. Obama also met with 2 Saudi foreign ministers and his 5 pm press conference was cancelled. By 5:35 the 2123B file got altered. Only the State Department of the NTCT could do this!

That afternoon, Al-Alharbi was scheduled for deportation. Then Napolitano denies any knowlege of this. Then the FBI begins backtracking and denies that he was a person of interest, but rather a witness. Then they denied even knowing him! CNN's John King get into some hot water over this, but he wondered on twitter what changed. Wondered if they were told to bury the story.

then ICE and DHS claims it was a different saudi who was to be deported. I have no idea who this guy is. scratch But this story is important enough that Congressmen are beginning to request more info about this.

On January 14th 2013, Obama met with Saudi Ministers.
2 days later, Janet Napolitano decides to put Saudi Arabia onthe "Trusted Traveler" list. This is a big deal because only S. Korea, Canada, and MExico were on this list. Germany and France and England arent on this list. Canada isnt. But now Saudi is. (Remember that 15 of the 19 terrorists on 9-11 were Saudis). Why the special treatment? Why does Saudi Arabia's interest trump our own durng a time of national security. And why doesnt anyone care?
Dennis324
Dennis324

Posts : 1689
Join date : 2012-01-28
Age : 61
Location : Alabama

Back to top Go down

The Saudi connection. Empty Re: The Saudi connection.

Post by Sir Pun Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:03 pm

Any reliable sources u can post so i can put this on fb?

Sir Pun

Posts : 1621
Join date : 2013-01-30

Back to top Go down

The Saudi connection. Empty Re: The Saudi connection.

Post by Dennis324 Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:15 pm

Dod, man I got this stuff from the internet, from Tv, from local radio, etc. over several days. I wouldnt begin to know how to give a link. But I do know that Glenn Beck is on this as well from the Blaze. Some dont like Beck and I have soured on him a little. but here's the thing to consider. Beck no longer works for anyone but himself. A news editor cant tell him to kill a story like CNN did John King. And he does bring up some good points.

Why do all this stuff for Saudi Arabia?

Andy McCarthy (fmr Fed prosecuter) says the overal effect of Saudi influence and the way it corrupts our counter-terrorism efforts is a huge influence on what our country does.

Steve Emerson, (Terrorism expert) says the reason is $200 Billion in T-bills. Plus Saudi is the largest producer of oil and they have bought us.

Funny that the administration no longer wants to use the word Jihad or Radical Islam anymore. John Brennan said “Nor do we describe our enemy as ‘jihadists’ or ‘Islamists’ because jihad is a holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam, meaning to purify oneself or one’s community, and there is nothing holy or legitimate or Islamic about murdering innocent men, women and children.” The Obama regime is now saying jihad is a holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam.

Turns out a lot of stuff was redacted from the 9/11 Commision's report about Saudi Arabia.

If Alharbi was not a person of interest and was never on a watch list (as Napolitano said) why did they open this 2123B file on him? Has she just perjured herself?

Why did someone go in and try to alter, then destroy the 2123B file??? Both the original and then the amended version?

Where is this guy now? Is he still in the hospital? Did Michelle Obama visit him personally? Pictures indicate she did. Were they photoshopped? And why were stories about all this killed when some journalists (like CNNs John King) tried to report on him?



Last edited by Dennis324 on Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:18 pm; edited 1 time in total
Dennis324
Dennis324

Posts : 1689
Join date : 2012-01-28
Age : 61
Location : Alabama

Back to top Go down

The Saudi connection. Empty Re: The Saudi connection.

Post by Dennis324 Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:17 pm

This link talks a bit about this stuff.
Dennis324
Dennis324

Posts : 1689
Join date : 2012-01-28
Age : 61
Location : Alabama

Back to top Go down

The Saudi connection. Empty Re: The Saudi connection.

Post by Bryant Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:59 pm

Dennis324 wrote:This link talks a bit about this stuff.

Really? Glenn Beck has had his tin foil hat on through this hole ordeal.
Bryant
Bryant
Admin

Posts : 1452
Join date : 2012-01-28
Age : 35
Location : John Day, Oregon

Back to top Go down

The Saudi connection. Empty Re: The Saudi connection.

Post by Dennis324 Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:05 am





Eh...what do YOU think about this Saudi guy? Was this guy who has a 2123B event file, who ws of enough interest to the FBI that they raided his apartment for 9 hours, who is currently being discussed in Congress...is he just an innocent bystander? Why did John King's story get killed?


Last edited by Dennis324 on Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:30 am; edited 1 time in total
Dennis324
Dennis324

Posts : 1689
Join date : 2012-01-28
Age : 61
Location : Alabama

Back to top Go down

The Saudi connection. Empty Re: The Saudi connection.

Post by Bryant Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:20 am

Dennis324 wrote:Eh...what do YOU think about this Saudi guy? Was this guy who has a 2123B event file, who ws of enough interest to the FBI that they raided his apartment for 9 hours, who is currently being discussed in Congress...is he just an innocent bystander? Why did John King's story get killed?

There is very little actual information known, most of whats been floating around is blind speculation. What little I have heard confirmed by Boston PD is that the Saudi whose flat was raided/is to be deported is not the same guy that was injured in the explosion. There are a lot of stories going around, but few if any consist of anything more than conjecture.
Bryant
Bryant
Admin

Posts : 1452
Join date : 2012-01-28
Age : 35
Location : John Day, Oregon

Back to top Go down

The Saudi connection. Empty Re: The Saudi connection.

Post by Dennis324 Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:34 am

Thats what Napolitano said a few days ago, but apparently that has changed. The guy has the 2123B file..actually 2 of them. Cant get around this fact. Again, this is a big deal to have one of these files opened on you.



Napolitana goofs. 1st she said unequivolcally he was not on a watchlist, not a person of interest, etc...then almost immediately says that he was!!! If this Saudi was a nobody, why was he even being interviewed? Why did he wind up on a watchlist? And what about this 2123B file?

Remember that the watchlist, and the 2123B file are 2 different things. The 2123B file was there already and said that his Visa was seet to expire in 2016. Yet the FBI said they were gonna deport him presumably because his Visa had expired.

At this point someone went in and tried to alter, then destroy the 2123B file. But the file had already been seen. THEN they come up with this cock and bull story about mistaken identity and how the guy being deported was someone else. (Where is that guy btw). But the roomates who were interviewed and the apartment raided by the FBI was Al Harabi's

This saudi guy really is someone and this someone has connections....powerful enough that someone went in and 1st altered the 2123B file, then tried to destroy it. Also is someone important enough that the 1st lady visited him in his hospital room. I wanna know why a Saudi kid who never showed up to school, who just happened to at the bombing, who has a 2123B event file on him, and who Napolitano said was on a watch list (after claiming he wasnt) is being visited by the 1st lady.

The Saudi connection. I-Vx6KCc3-M

Why would Secret Service even allow her to visit what was a “previous” terror suspect?


Last edited by Dennis324 on Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:12 am; edited 2 times in total
Dennis324
Dennis324

Posts : 1689
Join date : 2012-01-28
Age : 61
Location : Alabama

Back to top Go down

The Saudi connection. Empty Re: The Saudi connection.

Post by Dennis324 Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:02 am

Here is the text of the cover of the 2123B event file:


Subject,

ALHARBI, ABDULRAHMAN ALI E

DOB 03/12/1993

COC SAUDI ARABIA

Subject is an exact match to NO FLY TPN# 1037506192. Derogatory information reviewed by W/C Mayfield and CW/C Maimbourg was found to be sufficient to request Visa revocation. NTC-P is requesting revocation of Foil# e3139541. Subject is inadmissible to the U.S. under INA 212(a)(3)(B)(i)(II). SAO was not completed prior to Visa issuance. Subject is currently in the United States, admitted F1 student, at Boston POE on 08/28/2012. Subject is a student at THE UNIVERSITY OF FINDLAY, 1000 NORTH MAIN STREET FINDLAY, OHIO 45840-3695. Subject has One (1) prior event #1648067, Fins promoted, NT record in place, No scheduled found at this time.

Was Alharbi considered “armed and dangerous” before the Boston bombing, or at it? Was it related to something they found at his apartment? Was his prior “event” from the days prior, at the bombing, or was it from an earlier period in his life?
Dennis324
Dennis324

Posts : 1689
Join date : 2012-01-28
Age : 61
Location : Alabama

Back to top Go down

The Saudi connection. Empty Re: The Saudi connection.

Post by Miles1 Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:10 am

Dennis324 wrote:
Why do all this stuff for Saudi Arabia?


Two words for ya here: "Oil Money". No-one wants to piss off the saudis in case they turn off the oil pumps or jack up the prices. Is why as well everyone seems to forget that most of the 9/11 hijackers came from "The Kingdom", the government (and by that I mean whoever is in power, the reps or the dems) would rather brush that little fact under the carpet to keep the cozy relationship going.
Miles1
Miles1

Posts : 1080
Join date : 2012-01-28
Age : 46
Location : Cork, IE

Back to top Go down

The Saudi connection. Empty Re: The Saudi connection.

Post by Dennis324 Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:52 pm

Yep. Plus there's probably a military reason too. But I hear that the Saudis have their fingers in everyone's pie over here and have invested heavily in our news media. I'd love to know where I could find out.
Dennis324
Dennis324

Posts : 1689
Join date : 2012-01-28
Age : 61
Location : Alabama

Back to top Go down

The Saudi connection. Empty Re: The Saudi connection.

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum