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Post by Sir Pun Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:52 pm

In March 2013, when Edward Snowden sought a job with Booz Allen Hamilton at a National Security Agency facility in Hawaii, he signed the requisite classified-information agreements and would have been made well aware of the law regarding communications intelligence.
Section 798 of the United States Code makes it a federal crime if a person "knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States" any classified information concerning communication intelligence.
Mr. Snowden took that position so he could arrange to have published classified communications intelligence, as he told the South China Morning Post earlier this month. The point of Mr. Snowden's penetration was to get classified data from the NSA. He subsequently stated: "My position with Booz Allen Hamilton granted me access to lists of machines all over the world the NSA hacked, that is why I accepted that position."
My question would be, then: Was he alone in this enterprise to misappropriate communications intelligence?
Before taking the job in Hawaii, Mr. Snowden was in contact with people who would later help arrange the publication of the material he purloined. Two of these individuals, filmmaker Laura Poitras and Guardian blogger Glenn Greenwald, were on the Board of the Freedom of the Press Foundation that, among other things, funds WikiLeaks.
In January 2013, according to the Washington Post, Mr. Snowden requested that Ms. Poitras get an encryption key for Skype so that they could have a secure channel over which to communicate.
In February, he made a similar request to Mr. Greenwald, providing him with a step-by-step video on how to set up encrypted communications.
So, before Mr. Snowden proceeded with his NSA penetration in March 2013 through his Booz Allen Hamilton job, he had assistance, either wittingly or unwittingly, in arranging the secure channel of encrypted communications that he would use to facilitate the publication of classified communications intelligence.
On May 20, three months into his job, Mr. Snowden falsely claimed to his employer that he needed treatment for epilepsy. The purpose of the cover story was to conceal his trip to Hong Kong, where the operation to steal U.S. secrets would be brought to fruition.
Mr. Greenwald and Ms. Poitras also flew to Hong Kong. They were later joined by Sarah Harrison, a WikiLeaks representative who works closely with Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder. Mr. Snowden reportedly brought the misappropriated data to Hong Kong on four laptops and a thumb drive. He gave some of the communications intelligence to Mr. Greenwald, who had arranged to publish it in the Guardian, and Mr. Snowden arranged to have Ms. Poitras make a video of him issuing a statement that would be released on the Guardian's website. Albert Ho, a Hong Kong lawyer, was retained to deal with Hong Kong authorities.
This orchestration did not occur in a vacuum. Airfares, hotel bills and other expenses over this period had to be paid. A safe house had to be secured in Hong Kong. Lawyers had to be retained, and safe passage to Moscow—a trip on which Mr. Snowden was accompanied by WikiLeaks' Sarah Harrison—had to be organized.
The world now knows that the misappropriation of U.S. communications intelligence began appearing in the Guardian and other publications on June 5, and Mr. Snowden left Hong Kong for the Moscow airport on June 21. A question that remains to be answered: Who, if anyone, aided and abetted this well-planned theft of U.S. secrets?

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Post by Dennis324 Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:02 pm

Its starting to look like maybe he should be charged with espionage.  This is why I didnt jump the gun and call this guy a hero (like Glenn Beck did).  We're finding out more and more about who he is.
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Post by Bryant Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:42 pm

He stole intelligence from the US government and gave it to foreigners with the intent of damaging the Unites States. Isn't that Treason?
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Post by Sir Pun Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:11 pm

If you still believe in that sort of thing lol

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Post by Dennis324 Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:09 am

Bryant wrote:He stole intelligence from the US government and gave it to foreigners with the intent of damaging the Unites States.  Isn't that Treason?
Hard to argue against it.  I mean how can I not support Bradley Manning yet call Edward Snowden a hero?  Both leaked info.
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Post by Bryant Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:06 am

Dennis324 wrote:
Bryant wrote:He stole intelligence from the US government and gave it to foreigners with the intent of damaging the Unites States.  Isn't that Treason?
Hard to argue against it.  I mean how can I not support Bradley Manning yet call Edward Snowden a hero?  Both leaked info.

I think intent and who it was given to. Manning did what he did to empower the American people and even stuck around for the consequences, Snowden did it for his own benefit and ran.
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Post by Dennis324 Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:13 pm

I can see your point.  Manning bothers me though because , well...you just cant have intel people in the military going rogue like that.  Manning should have tried to contact his congressional reps 1st.  Or at least used his chain of command.

Furthermore, Manning's own comments strongly imply he was just mad at the Army and wanted to get back at them.
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