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Post by Dennis324 Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:27 am

JERUSALEM – A House Republican report released this week on the Obama administration’s response to the Sept. 11, 2012, Benghazi terror attack is missing one essential piece that could help to answer many of the questions raised in the report.

That piece is the alleged illicit activities transpiring inside the U.S. facilities that were attacked.

The 46-page report by five committees of the Republican-led House says the White House scrubbed terrorism and al-Qaida from talking points and misled the American public by blaming the attack on an obscure YouTube film.

The report further questions why the White House falsely claimed the U.S. facilities were targeted in unplanned, popular street protests while it was known to the government almost immediately that the Benghazi mission and nearby CIA annex were attacked by militants in a premeditated fashion.

One key question of the congressional probe centers on why the State Department chose to reduce security at the U.S. Benghazi mission and to deny multiple requests for more security assistance.

The report rejects State Department claims that funding was the reason for the security reductions.

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Post by Sir Pun Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:40 am

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Post by Sir Pun Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:41 am

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Post by Bryant Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:28 am

Reduced security? Perhaps because a) funding for diplomatic security was slashed by congress and b) the ambassador didn't view his role as a diplomat as belonging behind high fences and squads of armed guards.
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Post by Sir Pun Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:45 am

Oh wow whered u here that spin? What youre not aware of his pleading for addition sec forces? After a bombing on the petimeter fence 2 months earlier, or that the brits and french and everyone else had pulled out of nenghazi? And the al qaeda flag was proudly being flown? Or rhe previous security assessments stating the complex's sec measures were inadequate? Or that they basically set those guys and and then left them to do? Dude youve been reading and hearing aome serious spin on this story, its a disgrace, the benghazi tragedy, while obama slept so he could fly off to vegas the next day, and looked those family members in the eye across flag draped coffins and told them hed get down to the bottom of it, only to stonewall every effort to get at the truth cuz the truth doesnt look so favorable for him

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Post by Bryant Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:42 pm

Pun wrote:Oh wow whered u here that spin? What youre not aware of his pleading for addition sec forces? After a bombing on the petimeter fence 2 months earlier, or that the brits and french and everyone else had pulled out of nenghazi? And the al qaeda flag was proudly being flown? Or rhe previous security assessments stating the complex's sec measures were inadequate? Or that they basically set those guys and and then left them to do? Dude youve been reading and hearing aome serious spin on this story, its a disgrace, the benghazi tragedy, while obama slept so he could fly off to vegas the next day, and looked those family members in the eye across flag draped coffins and told them hed get down to the bottom of it, only to stonewall every effort to get at the truth cuz the truth doesnt look so favorable for him

Funding for diplomatic security was one of the things slashed by Congress. This article, while primarily about how Biden falsely accused Paul Ryan of personal responsibility for the cuts, delves into the pertinent cuts.

I heard in several of the obituaries to the late ambassador that he didn't want to run an embassy like the one in Baghdad, cooped up behind high walls and shielded off from the public. That is not to suggest that he didn't want more security than he was given.
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Post by Sir Pun Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:56 pm

I cant man this one frustrates me too much

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Post by Dennis324 Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:24 pm

In 2011 violent protests erupted in Benghazi, part of the unrest that would eventually lead to the Libyan civil war.

In June 2011, explosives were detonated in a car near the Tibesti Hotel.

So really we cant blame him for begging for more security. But it was ignored and in September, the ambassador and 3 others were killed. Furthermore, when some tried to go in to help, they were told to stand down.

Stand down? A guy volunteering to help is told to stand down?

Its widely thought that Ansar al-Sharia was responsible for the attack. Witnesses said they saw vehicles with the group's logo at the scene of the assault and that fighters there acknowledged at the time that they belonged to Ansar al-Sharia.

Ansar al-Sharia was formed during the Libyan civil war and rose to prominence after the death of Muammar Gaddafi. Made up of former rebels from the Abu Obayda Bin Aljarah Brigade, Malik Brigade and February 17 Brigade and many more, the Salafist militia initially made their name by posting videos of themselves fighting in the Battle of Sirte.

the Ansar al Sharia is a spinoff of the February 17 Brigade. This group is an al-Qaida-linked militia believed to have led the consulate assault in September. Ansar al-Sharia was said to be the people we relied on for security!

Ok, now we should probably find out who these groups were and why they would attack the Ambassador.

I couldnt find any info on the Abu Obayda Bin Aljarah Brigade.

The Malik Brigade is interesting: I found one group (the Al Baraa Ibn Malik Martyrdom Brigade) which formed in Syria and they said they would and has said it will employ suicide bombers against Syrian security forces.

Also there is a group called the Al Baraa bin Malik Brigade that joined with Al Quaida in Iraq. Al-Bara bin Malek Brigades is a specialized cell of suicide bombers within Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's al-Qaeda Organization in the Land of the Two Rivers. The Brigades have launched numerous suicide operations against U.S. and Iraqi government targets and were reportedly responsible for the devastating November 2005 hotel bombings in Jordan that killed almost 60 people.

I've also read that Al Qaeda in Iraq already has a strong presence in Syria.

Why are we relying on Al-Quaida linked militia groups and suicide bombers for our security? Is Obama or the State Dept saying they cant find 50-100 US Marines SOMEwhere in the world to provide security for us? Budget cuts have forced us to rely on suicide bombers for security???
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Post by Sir Pun Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:29 pm

Yeah the largest rebel geoup in syria has recently declared allegiance to al qaeda. But al aaeda is on the ropes now that obama double-tapped osama remember.

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Post by Dennis324 Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:37 pm

CNN reports that Ansar al Sharia' central belief is that all authority is derived from the Prophet Mohammed, that democracy is un-Islamic and that other branches of Islam, such as the Sufi, are heretical.

Remember what I've posted in the past about Mohammed's beliefs? How he declared that all polytheists are to be fought (Christianity is seen as a polytheistic religion to strict Muslims). How Mohammed felt that Jews and Christians were enemies of the state . He felt that Jews and Christians were corrupters of Allah and thus were enemies of Allah's cause.

The description on the Twitter feed of Ansar al Sharia of Benghazi proclaims: "The goals of Ansar al-Sharia brigade is to implement the laws of Allah on the land, and reject the human implemented laws and earthly made constitutions. There will be nothing ruling in this country other than the laws of Allah."

Perhaps this is why the Ansar al Sharia attacked our Consulate and killed our people.

But why in the heck were they being used as security for our guys in the first place??? White House gave misleading reasons for Benghazi? 32169418

This administration is so dadgum frustrating sometimes I wanna spit fire and chew nails. (Yet, in our infinite wisdom, we voted them back into office again. So I guess we deserve what we get).

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Post by Dennis324 Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:45 pm

Pun wrote:Yeah the largest rebel geoup in syria has recently declared allegiance to al qaeda. But al aaeda is on the ropes now that obama double-tapped osama remember.
Imma tellya somethng Dod. That mess over in Syria? I dont want any part of it. I dont want to get involved. I dont wanna ship arms over there and I hear that Sen John McCain is demanding that we arm the rebels and set up a no fly zone over there!!! McCain on Syria

NOBODY over there is our friend. They want our help, sure. They want our money and weapons. But they'll stab us in the back just as soon as they can. Libya isnt our friend. Iraq threw us out of their country after thousands of our soldiers died trying to help em. The Afghani President is a thug and turns on us most of the time and wants us to leave.

We need to tell em all to go to H*ll and spend that money on our true allies. I'm all for helping Israel because they almost always stand with us. But the rest of em can rot as far as I'm concerned.

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Post by Dennis324 Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:18 am

Is THIS missing piece to Benghazi puzzle?

JERUSALEM – A House Republican report released this week on the Obama administration’s response to the Sept. 11, 2012, Benghazi terror attack is missing one essential piece that could help to answer many of the questions raised in the report.

That piece is the alleged illicit activities transpiring inside the U.S. facilities that were attacked.

The 46-page report by five committees of the Republican-led House says the White House scrubbed terrorism and al-Qaida from talking points and misled the American public by blaming the attack on an obscure YouTube film.

The report further questions why the White House falsely claimed the U.S. facilities were targeted in unplanned, popular street protests while it was known to the government almost immediately that the Benghazi mission and nearby CIA annex were attacked by militants in a premeditated fashion.

One key question of the congressional probe centers on why the State Department chose to reduce security at the U.S. Benghazi mission and to deny multiple requests for more security assistance.

The report rejects State Department claims that funding was the reason for the security reductions.

States the report: “It is clear that funding – or a lack thereof – is not the reason for the reductions in security, as Deputy Assistant Secretary for Diplomatic Security Lamb testified and as emails reviewed by the Committees attest.

“Moreover, a lack of funding would not have been at issue with respect to the rejection of the request to extend the deployment of the [U.S. Military Security Support Team], as that team was provided via the Defense Department at no expense to the State Department.”

The report does not mention that the weapons and fighters may actually be the reason for the coordinated assaults on the U.S. facilities. According to Middle Eastern security officials, the U.S. mission was allegedly used to help coordinate arms and other aid to the jihadist-led rebel; insurgencies in Libya and in Syria.

The U.S. mission’s alleged role in arming the rebels, as first exposed by WND, may help to answer many of the questions in the probe, including why the White House did not want to draw attention to al-Qaida’s role in the attacks.

It also could explain why security was reduced as the compound. An increased security presence at the U.S. mission would have drawn attention to the shabby, nondescript building that was allegedly being used for such sensitive purposes.

WND has filed numerous reports quoting Middle East security officials who described the mission in Benghazi as a meeting place to coordinate aid for the rebel-led insurgencies in the Middle East, including the transfer of weapons to rebels.

Two weeks after the Benghazi attack, WND also broke the story that murdered U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens himself played a central role in recruiting jihadists to fight Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria, according to Egyptian security officials.

In November 2012, Middle Eastern security sources further described both the U.S. mission and nearby CIA annex in Benghazi as the main intelligence and planning center for U.S. aid to the rebels that was being coordinated with Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

Many rebel fighters are openly members of terrorist organizations, including al-Qaida.

Among the tasks performed inside the Benghazi facility was collaborating with countries, most notably Turkey, on the recruitment of fighters – including jihadists – to target Assad’s regime, the security officials said.

Stevens served as a key contact with the Saudis to coordinate the recruitment by Saudi Arabia of Islamic fighters from North Africa and Libya, Egyptian security officials told WND. The jihadists were sent to Syria via Turkey to attack Assad’s forces, said the security officials.

The officials said Stevens also worked with the Saudis to send names of potential jihadi recruits to U.S. security organizations for review. Names found to be directly involved in previous attacks against the U.S., including in Iraq and Afghanistan, were ultimately not recruited by the Saudis to fight in Syria, said the officials.

White House officials previously denied aiding arms shipments to the rebels.

However, confirming WND’s exclusive reporting for over a year, the New York Times last month reported that since early 2012, the CIA has been aiding the Arab governments and Turkey in shopping for and transporting weapons to the Syrian rebels.

Previously, multiple establishment news media reports described the U.S. role in helping to arm the Libyan rebels attacking the regime of Moammar Ghadaffi. At the same time it was widely reported that al-Qaida groups were among the Libyan rebels.

Catch the bit about Saudi Arabia? Then read my post about The Saudi Connection


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Post by Dennis324 Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:25 am

Well well well...I guess we have our answer eh? The US, once again meddling with that buncha arabs in the Middle east. Funneling arms AND recruits through Turkey to fight the Syrian govt. Furthermore it seems like the compound was a meeting place for us to coordinate aid (weapons, intel, recruits?).

And it blew up in our faces! Of course it couldnt have been because we were trusting members of Al Quaida and other jihadists could it? Naaaaaaw...

Guess Glenn Beck was right.

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Post by Sir Pun Mon May 06, 2013 7:38 am

Hopefully the whistleblower testimony we get wednesday will finally blow the lid off this whole shameful ordeal

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