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Post by Dennis324 Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:15 pm

'Grassroots' group actually front for shady figures

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Dream Defenders, the main group that has been agitating the protest movement surrounding the Trayvon Martin case, was spawned by activists employed by a who’s who of the race-hijacking radical left.  From the socialist-oriented SEIU union to ACORN to Occupy to a litany of George Soros-funded organizations, the deep connections behind Dream Defenders raises questions about the motivation of an organization that claims to be a grassroots effort working to oppose racism.
 
Dream Defenders has been leading Martin protests since the onset and has been credited with agitating for George Zimmerman’s arrest.  The group was behind the protests that blockaded the Sanford Police Department, demanding the police chief be fired for failing to bring charges against Zimmerman, who was acquitted of second-degree murder Saturday.


The small Community Relations Service at Eric Holder’s Justice Department facilitated a meeting between Dream Defenders and city officials that resulted in a Justice review of the police department.  Sanford police chief Bill Lee was ultimately fired. Lee has claimed he was dismissed for not arresting Zimmerman.

The group is made up of students and recent graduates from several Florida universities and is openly backed by SEIU, the ACLU and the Soros-supported Southern Poverty Law Center.  WND found that Gabriel Pendas, Dream Defenders’ organizer, is also employed as “Lead Organizer” by the SEIU. Pendas has been organizing Dream Defenders’ marches for Martin.  Pendas, who openly identifies as a socialist, previously serves as president of the heavily Soros-backed United States Student Association.

*Sigh*  George Soros again.  SEIU, ACLU, and Socialists etc.  These are people who apparently don't care about the law, but through sheer will, demand that Zimmerman be imprisoned.
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Post by Sir Pun Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:53 pm

Well i could e told you it was the same occupy instigators, at leadt out in oakland, but why should this come as any surprise?

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Post by Sir Pun Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:56 pm

I mean zimmerman WAS tried for political reasons, and will now always be an enemy to the left and all its ugly tentacles.

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Post by Sir Pun Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:06 pm

Obama has alrdy said we need to take away from this that "reasonable gun control" needs to be passed. Um why? So zimmerman could have gotten beaten (nearly? Maybe?) to death and trayvon wouldve been sent off at least to juvey or maybe evn tried as an adult if he went too far. What it all boils down to is A. He's racist because he made the mistake of saying i think its a black male but hes wearing a hoodie, B. if he hadnt gotten a gun, trayvon would still be alive - you know, just because its a given that it was just a "little scuffle" and trayvon was JUST ABOUT TO let up, no doubt, cuz hes a good kid after all, when zimmerman was like, "AHA! EAT LEAD NEGRO! Finally my chance to liveout my perverted fantasy of killing a black boy!," and shot him....and C. He just shouldnt have gotten out of his car to trail him, by golly thats against the law, and chargeable for manslaughter, murder one, murder two, federal hate crimes, you name!

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Post by Dennis324 Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:10 pm

Eh...its not against the law but if I had been in h is place, I'm fairly certain I would have called the cops and let them handle it...especially after the dispatcher told me not to go after him.  But that's just me.  Smile
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Post by Sir Pun Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:41 pm

Well i wouldnt have been in his place, but stilll.

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Post by Marconius Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:25 pm

Another misconception is that the 9-1-1 operator "told" Zimmerman not to follow. The operator was very clear in court. He did not because he can not tell a caller anything. All he did was advise Zimmerman that they did not need him to follow. Zimmerman did in FACT get back into his truck immediately after the dispatcher let him know that he didn't need to follow(that FACT is always ignored 'cause it doesn't fit people's narrative).

That is besides the point anyway. Trayvon did not attack him at that point. We have approx 4 min of time between then and the attack. At this time, Trayvon made it to the doorsteps of his dad's girlfriend, doubled back, circled and cased Zimmerman's truck, then attacked when Zimmerman got out the second time to read street signs. The whole time, he was on the phone with his girlfriend explaining how he hated "crazy crackers".

If we are going to give opinions, let's give opinions based on facts brought out in court and not some supposed idea that we "think" happened. Holding on to false beliefs even after the facts are known is never a good thing.

If it were me, and there was a rash of break-ins and thefts in my neighborhood, and a strange individual were seen cutting through my neighbor's yard, I would have checked it out. That is the whole point of being a good neighbor. Being a good neighbor is not just looking the other way. Besides, there is enough evidence on Trayvon to say that he just MIGHT HAVE BEEN the robber in that neighborhood. Notice how the break-ins suddenly stopped??? Notice how he was caught with stolen goods prior to the run-in with Zimmerman??? Not trying to say he was guilty of the break-ins in Zimmerman's area, but he was a known thief.
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Post by Marconius Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:37 pm

Sir Pun wrote:Obama has alrdy said we need to take away from this that "reasonable gun control" needs to be passed. Um why? So zimmerman could have gotten beaten (nearly? Maybe?) to death and trayvon wouldve been sent off at least to juvey or maybe evn tried as an adult if he went too far. What it all boils down to is A. He's racist because he made the mistake of saying i think its a black male but hes wearing a hoodie, B. if he hadnt gotten a gun, trayvon would still be alive - you know, just because its a given that it was just a "little scuffle" and trayvon was JUST ABOUT TO let up, no doubt, cuz hes a good kid after all, when zimmerman was like, "AHA! EAT LEAD NEGRO! Finally my chance to liveout my perverted fantasy of killing a black boy!," and shot him....and C. He just shouldnt have gotten out of his car to trail him, by golly thats against the law, and chargeable for manslaughter, murder one, murder two, federal hate crimes, you name!

Holder is the one making me sick. He says (taken from his speech to the NAACP):

“This tragedy provides yet another opportunity for our nation to speak honestly about the complicated and emotionally charged issues that this case has raised,”

Then speak honestly bitch. The only racist that night was Trayvon. He actively doubled back to instigate the confrontation and got what he was looking for. He made the racial slurs. The word asshole is not racial. Now quit trying to divide with lies and mistruths.

“There has always been a legal defense for using deadly force if — and the ‘if’ is important — no safe retreat is available. But we must examine laws that take this further by eliminating the common sense and age-old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat, outside their home, if they can do so safely.”

Once again dishonesty abounds. There is no age-old requirement to retreat. That notion is an abomination. An innocent is an innocent and always has the right to defend any where at any time. Even if what he said were a truism, Martin had Zimmerman pinned and was slamming his head into a cement slab. That is the same as slamming him with the slab or a bat. There was no room for retreat. It was a surprise attack.

“The list of resulting tragedies is long and — unfortunately — has victimized too many who are innocent,”

More dishonesty.....unless an attacker who stalked his prey for 3-4 min before launching a surprise attack is innocent. The thug was approx 80 yards from his destination. He could have covered that distance several times over in 3-4 min. Trayvon was not innocent on that night.

Holder is the racist bitch. He has proved that over and over again.
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Post by Sir Pun Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:51 am

Actually in many states, people do have to retreat from a threat if possible. Thats whatthe stand your ground law is about, even though it didnt need to be used as a defence. And of course a dispatcher cant give you orders of how to act a certain way in a potentially dangerous situation. What i was trying to say all along. They dont have the authority to "order" you to do anything. It is YOUR judgement on how to act, and as i said before, its not illegal to keep an eys on someone. And youre right, zimmerman said ok, when the dispatcher told him that. It wasnt until 3-4 minutes later he got back out, i guess to see if trayvon had moved on. Thats what frustrates me soo much about this case. If it were questionable and there was evidence to support a different version than what zims gave, thats one thing. But all the anti-zims haters views are based on false assumptions and legal misunderstandings, not to mention the outright lies, such as the dispatch "ordering" him to do something that he didnt. And of course with new insight into trayvon's character, i too wondered if he may have been behind the appartment burglaries. What frustrates me most, is that i want the truth, but the truth is too politically bitter for the haters to swallow. Utterly disgusting the waythe media can shape public perception.

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Post by Dennis324 Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:12 am

Marconius wrote:Another misconception is that the 9-1-1 operator "told" Zimmerman not to follow. The operator was very clear in court. He did not because he can not tell a caller anything. All he did was advise Zimmerman that they did not need him to follow. Zimmerman did in FACT get back into his truck immediately after the dispatcher let him know that he didn't need to follow(that FACT is always ignored 'cause it doesn't fit people's narrative).

That is besides the point anyway. Trayvon did not attack him at that point. We have approx 4 min of time between then and the attack. At this time, Trayvon made it to the doorsteps of his dad's girlfriend, doubled back, circled and cased Zimmerman's truck, then attacked when Zimmerman got out the second time to read street signs. The whole time, he was on the phone with his girlfriend explaining how he hated "crazy crackers".
 
 Understood.  I was sort of paraphrasing.    We can speculate because we aren't in court though.  And I think Martin was a thug. I don't think I'd just look the other way.  Zimmerman reported the situation as would I.  Still, I'd have let the police handle it unless a neighbor or myself were in imminent danger.  I'd defend with my pistol of course if need be.
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Post by Marconius Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:43 am

Dennis324 wrote:
Marconius wrote:Another misconception is that the 9-1-1 operator "told" Zimmerman not to follow. The operator was very clear in court. He did not because he can not tell a caller anything. All he did was advise Zimmerman that they did not need him to follow. Zimmerman did in FACT get back into his truck immediately after the dispatcher let him know that he didn't need to follow(that FACT is always ignored 'cause it doesn't fit people's narrative).

That is besides the point anyway. Trayvon did not attack him at that point. We have approx 4 min of time between then and the attack. At this time, Trayvon made it to the doorsteps of his dad's girlfriend, doubled back, circled and cased Zimmerman's truck, then attacked when Zimmerman got out the second time to read street signs. The whole time, he was on the phone with his girlfriend explaining how he hated "crazy crackers".
 
 Understood.  I was sort of paraphrasing.    We can speculate because we aren't in court though.  And I think Martin was a thug. I don't think I'd just look the other way.  Zimmerman reported the situation as would I.  Still, I'd have let the police handle it unless a neighbor or myself were in imminent danger.  I'd defend with my pistol of course if need be.

You are also in a different physical condition than someone as myself or even Zimmerman. To follow or intervene, with your physical limitations, is not smart.

I live in the country and my neighbors and I are on good terms. Many times, before leaving for an extended period of time, we talk to each other.....even give each other keys to the house. We actively watch each others house. If I see someone lurking around my neighbors' house, especially when they are not home, I will call the sheriff, and make it known that "I see you". For a common thief, just the sight of "a big ole dude" like me, is enough to stop them in their tracks.
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Post by Marconius Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:09 pm

Sir Pun wrote:Actually in many states, people do have to retreat from a threat if possible.

Yeah, that law is found in progressive states. Nature tells us that we, like all animals, have a fight or flight instinct. Many of us never consider flight, so to tell us we must abide by flight is to make us go against our nature. That is an abomination to some, while not fleeing may seem an abomination to others. Most males would fight before flight. It is all about our hormones.
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Post by Sir Pun Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:25 pm

I would say that self-defense is the most basic of rights

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Post by Dennis324 Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:56 am

Marconius wrote:

You are also in a different physical condition than someone as myself or even Zimmerman. To follow or intervene, with your physical limitations, is not smart.

I live in the country and my neighbors and I are on good terms. Many times, before leaving for an extended period of time, we talk to each other.....even give each other keys to the house. We actively watch each others house. If I see someone lurking around my neighbors' house, especially when they are not home, I will call the sheriff, and make it known that "I see you". For a common thief, just the sight of "a big ole dude" like me, is enough to stop them in their tracks.
 
 That's true.  I wasn't always in this condition though.  I used to be pretty athletic.  (Those were the days)  Smile  Back in those days I was younger and had a different mindset.  (They say young people's minds are not yet fully developed and this causes teens to do some weird things.  ).  Lol!  So I may have done just as Zimmerman did, I dunno.  But...knowing what I know today, if I were still in the same shape I was back then, I'd still have watched Martin, called the cops and stayed in my truck.  I think a lot of people would.  What I wouldn't do is go after him like Charles Bronson.  Lol!  I'd like to but....
 
 (Man...I gotta get back in shape).
 
 This makes me think of a real situation that happened with one of my friends.  Greg was around 19 or 20 at the time and one day he noticed some strange vehicles on his family's farm.  Greg decided to drive out in the field and check it out.  Turned out they were hunters who were trespassing.  Greg told them it was private property and to get out.  The hunters (3 of them) reached over and picked up their deer rifles and told Greg to get lost.
 
Greg did.  I don't know if he ever called the cops, but even back then, I remember thinking I'd have called the police 1st.  Greg learned that even though he was in the right, that thing could have blown up in his face and the law or Constitution would matter to him at that point.  Man there are some mean people in the world.
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