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Post by Sir Pun Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:34 am

So much for the denials. An administration that throughout its 2012 election campaign denied it was waging a War on Coal has now come out and publicly declared its intention to shut down coal-fired power plants – putting hundreds of thousands of Americans out of work and sending electricity prices skyrocketing.
This is not what the American people voted for.
Responding to a White House petition to end the War on Coal, the administration said: “The President has made clear that he understands that coal has played a critical role in our country’s energy portfolio for decades and will continue to be an important source of energy in the future.”
Sycophantic liberal media outlets (like The Nation and the Associated Press) went further, repeatedly claiming that the War on Coal was a myth. The Obama campaign even ran a TV ad in Ohio claiming that Mitt Romney would be bad for coal – and trotted out former Democratic Gov. Ted Strickland to deny there was a war on coal and echo the attacks on Romney.
Yet today Obama political consultant David Plouffe took to Twitter to bang his chest: “Today's climate announcement underscores that elections matter greatly” – as if Obama had campaigned on shutting down coal plants instead of on denying his intention to do so.
Such denials are no longer necessary. Today a top Obama global warming adviser told The New York Times the denials were just election-year politics. Daniel Schrag said: “Politically, the White House is hesitant to say they’re having a war on coal. On the other hand, a war on coal is exactly what’s needed.”
And Obama delivered. It’s right there on page 19 of his Climate Action Plan: “Going forward, we will promote fuel-switching from coal to gas for electricity production.”
Indeed, Obama made clear in his speech that he intends to impose regulations on existing coal plants that can only be met through carbon capture and storage (technology that doesn’t exist on a commercial scale), switching to natural gas, or shutting down completely.
Coal still produces 37 percent of U.S. electricity. A Heritage Foundation analysis found that implementing Obama’s proposed regulation on existing coal plants would destroy more than 500,000 jobs, slash the income of a typical family of four more than $1,400 a year, and increase electricity prices at least 20 percent. Price spikes could be much higher in states that depend heavily on coal-fired power plants, especially in the Midwest. President Obama once famously explained that he intended to make electricity prices “necessarily skyrocket.”
Obama intends to fight his War on Coal by issuing a Presidential Memorandum to the EPA to issue regulations under the 1970 Clean Air Act. This is despite the fact that the law’s principal author, Democrat John Dingell of Michigan, famously said: “This is not what was intended by the Congress and by those of us who wrote the Clean Air Act. We are beginning to look at a wonderfully complex world, which has the potential for shutting down or slowing down virtually all industry and all economic activity and growth.”
Regulating existing coal plants also has the additional legal problem of arguably being pre-empted by last year’s set of War on Coal regulations under a different section of the act.
And there is zero global warming benefit to go with all the economic costs, because even if all United States greenhouse gas emissions were shut down to zero tomorrow, the rest of the world would keep on puffing. Paul Knappenberger recently calculated, based on standard assumptions, that getting to zero emissions in the U.S. immediately would only reduce global average temperatures an imperceptible 0.08 degrees Celsius by 2050. Moreover, the rest of the world would replace all U.S. emissions within seven years.


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Post by Sir Pun Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:37 am

Wonder how much this is gonna coat us every month?

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Post by Marconius Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:05 pm

Big Pun wrote:Wonder how much this is gonna coat us every month?

Even more than the added costs of healthcare.

Stupidity is running amok, but don't worry.........government has our best interests at heart.......always has. That is why history is devoid of tyrants, genocides, war and all that stuff.

Glad my electricty comes from gas fired plants. Not the best, but it may help stave off some of the added cost.

I wonder why nobody ever talks about real solutions to the problem. Passive hydroelectric systems could do wonders in my area, but it isn't even talked about. Individual residential solar setups would be perfect in most of the southwest. Give up on wind. Too much damage to wildlife......although the wraps are kept tightly on that.......they don't even have to pay fines for the destruction of endagered species......green they are not. Hell why is noone thinking about piezoelectric systems??? All that noise from the dumbass progs could be put to good use.
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Post by Sir Pun Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:42 am

Because its not pro- enviro, its anti-industry

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Post by Dennis324 Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:13 am

Big Pun wrote:So much for the denials.  An administration that throughout its 2012 election campaign denied it was waging a War on Coal has now come out and publicly declared its intention to shut down coal-fired power plants – putting hundreds of thousands of Americans out of work and sending electricity prices skyrocketing.
This is not what the American people voted for.
 
Apparently it no longer matters what the people vote for.  The feds killed Prop 8 too. 
 
This administration has an agenda...to fundamentally transform this country, whether we want it or not.  Pouring millions into solar tech despite the fact that it really doesn't work yet.  And windmills, despite the problems.  And the oil drilling moratorium.  And getting rid of don't ask don't tell.  And doing away with prop 8.  (Look at the SCOTUS judges he nominated).  And putting intense pressure on conservative groups on a variety of issues.  (Guns, marriage, etc).
 
This guy is more radical than even I thought.  And that's saying something.
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Post by Sir Pun Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:34 am

Dennis324 wrote:
 
This guy is more radical than even I thought.  And that's saying something.
not me. I took him at his word. Progs will tell u what they really think if you listen

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Post by Dennis324 Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:51 am

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Post by Sir Pun Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:57 am

Your right about who obama surrounds himself with

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