Self-Professed ‘Bible Scholar’ Makes Explosive Allegation About Jesus That He Believes Could Rock the Christian Faith to Its Core

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Self-Professed ‘Bible Scholar’ Makes Explosive Allegation About Jesus That He Believes Could Rock the Christian Faith to Its Core

Post by Dennis324 on Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:08 am

On Oct. 19, self-professed Biblical scholar Joseph Atwill is planning to make public some very flammable allegations. At a day-long symposium called "Covert Messiah" in London, England, he's set to unveil purported evidence that Roman aristocrats manufactured Jesus Christ - a claim that, if substantiated, would devalue the core of the Christian faith.


The only problem? Most Biblical experts disagree with the scholar's pronouncements.


A press release announcing the purported new evidence claims that Atwill has discovered "ancient confessions" that purportedly prove that Romans invented Jesus Christ in the first century. He has long argued that the faith system was used as a political tool to control the masses -- something he says is still going on today.


"I present my work with some ambivalence, as I do not want to directly cause Christians any harm, but this is important for our culture," he said of the alleged debunk - one that he believes will eventually be universally accepted.
 
In the release, Atwill said that governments often create "false histories and false gods" and that this is often done in an effort to secure social order.


Rather than a theology, Atwill believes that Christianity was concocted as a government project that was used to control Roman citizens. During a time in which Jewish residents were waiting for their Messiah, he says they were a constant source of insurrection, leading the Romans to seek out an equalizing and tempering force.


"When the Romans had exhausted conventional means of quashing rebellion, they switched to psychological warfare," Atwill explains in the press release. "They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system."


And that's when Jesus was allegedly created - a man who advocated peace rather than violence. Atwill contends that the Christ that billions embrace never actually existed and that he is a "fictional character."


He bases his theory on a study of "Wars of the Jews," a book by Josephus, a scholar who provided insight and documentation first-century Judea. The historian contends that the prophesies of Jesus line up with Josephus' writings about the Jewish-Roman war and are, thus, proof that "the biography of Jesus is actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar."
 
"Is this the beginning of the end of Christianity?" the press release cryptically asks.


While Atwill doesn't think it is, he did say that the purported discovery will give those who are looking to leave the Christian faith the perfect motivation to do so. He maintains that his evidence shows exactly where Jesus' story came from.
"Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history," he said. "To this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East."


Patheos blogger James R. McGrath, though, doubts that the symposium will be groundbreaking. Of Atwill's claim to be a Biblical scholar he wrote, "there is no evidence that he has relevant qualifications or research to his name."
 
Atwill's biography claims that, while he went to school for computer science, he has spent years studying the origins of Christianity.
Professor James Crossley from the University of Sheffield in South Yorkshire, England, agreed with Atwill's critics, telling The Daily Mail that theories like Atwill's are not accepted among academics.


"These types of theories are very common outside the academic world and are usually reserved for sensationalist literature," he said. "They are virtually non-existent in the academic world."


Atwill's views are no surprise. Online articles and a book he wrote in 2005 entitled, "Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus," all include similar themes. His view that Jesus was manufactured is well-documented. Most mainstream Bible scholars, though, don't seem to be buying into it.
Well...at least he doesn't have an agenda.

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Post by Sir Pun on Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:33 pm

Yeah i already heard this parroted too. Only problem is he cant a tually back it up, and it flies n the face of history, particularly the 300 year persecution of christians prior to constantine. I think that its political possibilities were definitely a reason for his legalizing it. But if you want to argue it was manufactured from the beggining, it was about the worst conceived plan possible and quite deadly.

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Post by Sir Pun on Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:37 pm

Beaides, why would romans choose (at the time) a tiny niche faith of a religion from a provincial backwater that wasnt even accepted by the jews, let alone roman culture? Why would they them stick with that fairh for 15-20 generations, all as a guise, which could get them killed, when they themselves, or even their direct descendants wouldnt stand to gain anything from it?

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Post by Dennis324 on Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:11 pm

That's a good question.  Very Happy   He's saying it was all a conspiracy I think.  But Josephus (who was not a Christian follower btw), documents, if not the actual miracles of Jesus, the passionate following that He had.  This is a little unusual because in those days there were several so-called Messiah's and all wound up failing.  But here's the fascinating thing.

Of all those false messiahs...none of them could be tied to the events that came immediately after Jesus' crucifixion.  The eclipse.  The earthquake.  The torn curtain at the Holy of Holies.  Even the dead that rose to witness days after the crucifixion. 

Tacitus wrote about Christians in the days of Nero.  He wrote of the devotion and huge following they had, and all this was before the Catholic Church.

Thallus (AD 52) wrote a history of the Eastern Mediterranean and talked about the events that came during the crucifixion, such as darkness and the earthquake.  The oddity is that Jesus' crucifixion occurred at the Passover which was a full moon.  I have read that it is not possible for a solar eclipse to occur at a full moon.  Julius Africanus draws the conclusion that Thallus' mentioning of the eclipse was describing the one at Jesus' crucifixion.

Could all these respected historians have been hoodwinked by so-called Roman Aristocrats?

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